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Are you desiring a spiritual mother or longing to embrace your role in mentoring the next generation?Join us in the latest episode of the “The Salted Podcast” as we dive into the powerful impact of multi-generational discipleship and the vital role spiritual mothers play in building a legacy of faith.
In our newest episode “Legacy of Faith,” I’m joined by Katharine Rose, writer, speaker, podcast host of Eternal Echoes Ministry, and a passionate advocate for spiritual mentorship. Together, we explore biblical principles, practical insights, and inspiring stories about nurturing, guiding, and empowering women of all ages in their walk with Christ. Whether you’re called to mentor or to be mentored, this episode will motivate you to invest in eternal relationships that strengthen the church and transform lives.
Host Commentary
Summary
In this enlightening conversation, Beth Barlet and Catherine Rose delve into the significance of multi-generational discipleship and the vital role of spiritual mentorship in the Christian faith. They discuss the importance of older women in guiding the younger generation, the need for vulnerability and humility in seeking mentorship, and the mutual benefits that arise from these relationships. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of community, the dangers of isolation, and the encouragement to both seek and offer mentorship in various life stages.
Takeaways
- -Intergenerational mentoring is a God idea, essential for spiritual growth.
- Spiritual mothers provide unique support and wisdom.
- Vulnerability and humility are crucial in seeking mentorship.
- Isolation can hinder spiritual growth; community is vital.
- Mentorship is a two-way street; both parties benefit.
- Older generations have invaluable life experiences to share.
- Being in the Word is foundational for understanding identity in Christ.
- Listening is a powerful ministry in mentorship.
- Everyone can be a mentor, regardless of age or experience.
- God equips us to encourage others through our own experiences.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Multi-Generational Discipleship
05:10 The Importance of Spiritual Mentorship
10:51 The Role of Older Women in Mentorship
16:29 The Need for Vulnerability and Humility
20:55 Overcoming Isolation and Fear
25:04 The Mutual Benefits of Mentorship
30:20 Encouragement to Seek Mentorship
For more Katharine Rose:
www.eternalechoesministry.com
@eternalechoesministry
Transcript
Beth Barlet (00:01)
Are you desiring a spiritual mother or longing to embrace your role in mentoring the next generation? In our newest episode, Legacy of Faith, I’m joined by Catherine Rose, writer, speaker, podcast host of Eternal Echoes, who is a passionate advocate for spiritual mentorship. Join us as we dive into the powerful impact of multi-generational discipleship.
and the vital role spiritual mothers play in building a legacy of faith. Whether you’re called to mentor or to be mentored, this episode will motivate you to invest in eternal relationships that strengthen and transform lives. Let’s get to it. Salted begins right now.
Beth Barlet (01:07)
Welcome to Salted, where I help you uncover the transformative power to know and love Jesus in His fullness and stir up revival within your heart. Join me, Beth Barlett, as I come alongside you every week on the narrow path that draws us into a deeper relationship with Jesus. Get ready to be encouraged, empowered, ignited and equipped as we pursue authentic discipleship to influence the world for the Kingdom of God.
Beth Barlet (01:38)
Hey family, I hope everyone is having an amazing week. I am so glad that I get to be with all of you again today. And I pray that these episodes that we’ve been doing have just been encouraging, challenging you, and helping you grow your relationship with Jesus on your faith journey. I am so excited because today I get to welcome my sweet friend, Catherine Rose.
the host and founder of the Eternal Echoes podcast to co-host with me in order to have a powerful discussion about the inherent need for multi-generational discipleship and mentoring in our walk with Jesus and how crucial it is for us to become more like him and to grow in spiritual maturity. So, hey, Catherine!
Katharine (02:28)
Hey Beth, great to be here.
Beth Barlet (02:30)
We are so excited to have you. I love Katherine because she is a mighty woman of God. She is a writer, a speaker, and a podcast host. She is the founder of Eternal Echoes, a ministry dedicated to passing on faith, wisdom, and life lessons from older saints. And she is an advocate for intergenerational discipleship and mentorship.
She is passionate about giving a voice to those who have gone before us and encouraging the rising generation to learn from their wisdom and life experience. you know, Catherine and I met a few years ago, actually during a multi-generational mentoring program through our church’s women ministry. And I would say that the Lord brought us together because we are so much alike.
Would you say that?
Katharine (03:25)
Yes we are.
Beth Barlet (03:27)
You know, God wired us so similarly and weirdly in so many ways. And I believe that even in our own faith journeys that we’ve had to overcome some of the same issues growing up from our flesh, walking in the spirit. And I think that God brought us together at the same time we both started our podcast ministries just to give each other encouragement, to cheer each other on.
to grumble about how hard things are that we are not alone in this ministry for such a time is this. But you know, over the past couple of weeks, I really felt the Lord strongly calling us to collaborate when one day he reminded me of the powerful spiritual mothers and women of faith who marked my walk and journey with Jesus over the past decade.
Katharine (03:56)
Yes.
Beth Barlet (04:24)
older seasoned women who the Lord used and brought into my life at the right time for specific purposes on my journey to grow me, to prepare me for the calling God placed upon my life and to walk out my faith journey with the Lord. These women, I have to say, were those who were unconditionally loving, compassionate, supernaturally spirit-led, who would encourage
challenge and fan the flame of the Holy Spirit deep inside me, magnifying Jesus within me during the best, but also I would say the worst and hardest times of my life. And these women, were the best gift the Lord could have given me in these seasons. You know, there is something about a spiritual mother.
that’s different even from the love that we have with our own physical mothers in our families. But they supernaturally come alongside of us, breathe life into us as a vessel of the Spirit of God. And these women, they’re so full of wisdom, experience, and years of walking with the Lord available to pour into women like us who are hungry, vulnerable,
Katharine (05:46)
Mm.
Beth Barlet (05:46)
in need
of direction, encouragement, and strong biblical truth so that we as disciples can learn how to glorify God with all that we are and enjoy him forever. Amen. Amen. And I pulled Catherine on the show today because in a culture that’s all about self, all about competition, comparison, guarding without vulnerability,
Katharine (06:00)
Amen. Amen.
Beth Barlet (06:14)
It is so important to lean into what the Bible says about community and the heart postures we must take on in relation to others and the body of Christ that helps us to increase our capacity to give, receive, love and grow. so Catherine is just such a plethora of wisdom and information when it comes to this. And I’m just so glad to have her here so she can pour into you guys.
Katharine (06:33)
Amen.
Beth Barlet (06:43)
and tell us about why we need to have spiritual mentors in our lives. Amen.
Katharine (06:49)
Amen. ⁓
So yeah, Beth, I’m so excited to be here. Thank you so much for having me. It’s an honor really. And I really, I I want to echo everything you said. It was so beautifully said. I always say that I feel like intergenerational mentoring, again, it’s not just a good idea. It is a God idea. It is part of his very design and structure for us to help us flourish.
And so this is really something that the Lord has impressed upon me and that I’ve also walked out in my own journey of having mentors, those who have gone before me that have really helped lead and guide me and strengthen me in my own walk with the Lord. I mean, it has been so vital when I think about my life before mentors, before really getting connected.
to older women versus after it’s night and day. It has been so instrumental, but the Lord in particular has put older people on my heart. as you mentioned, I have a ministry called Eternal Echoes. It’s really dedicated to turning to the older generation for their wisdom, their life experience, the lessons that they have learned on their walk with God. think.
In our culture and society, we don’t necessarily value older people as much as we should. you especially compared to other countries, there’s even just in the Far East, like there’s such a deep respect ingrained in their society for older people that I really feel like we’re lacking. And so the Lord really impressed it upon my heart to turn to them, to highlight their wisdom, their life experience that we can all glean.
from them. think, you know, it’s, I’ve kind of come to look at it as this untapped reservoir, where, especially just if you look at the number of older people, there are it’s, they’re growing exponentially with the baby boomers and all of that. And so here we have, we have this this resource, and it’s like, we are we utilizing it? Are we tapping into it? Because it really is beneficial, not just for for us, as the younger generation, but it’s beneficial for them as well. It gives them a sense of purpose.
Beth Barlet (08:41)
Amen.
Katharine (08:57)
It’s also just part of like I said, God’s design. There are so many scriptures that talk about passing on the faith to the next generation and investing in the next generation. So that’s really God’s heart. And like I said, it is very strongly my heart as well. he’s just made me have that heart for the older people to say, look at look at the years that they’ve walked out, the things the battles they’ve been through, the victories they’ve had.
you know, that we can really glean from. And so that really is my passion.
Beth Barlet (09:28)
feel too that just knowing that someone else has walked the same walk and have overcome in their faith, victorious in Jesus, just reassures us that much more that yes, we can make it too, you know?
Katharine (09:41)
Yes, yes, right. totally. mean,
hearing some of these stories that I have heard, mean, people who have walked through the death of children and overcome just incredible things. mean, there’s a reason that testimony strengthened our faith because you hear.
the things that they have been through and they come out and they are just singing the praises of the Lord and you can see the joy and the light in them and it’s like, well gosh, if they can come out through that, I can handle anything, you know? so it’s just been very powerful and a blessing just to simply, and again, giving them that outlet of here, tell me your story. Where have you seen the goodness and faithfulness of the Lord? It’s like, I think of Joshua with the command when,
when God dried up the Jordan River and the Lord asked him once they crossed over into the promised land, you know, build an altar of 12 stones to remember what I’ve done. And he says, do this so that when my children, so that when your children come and ask, what are these stones, you can tell them about the power of the Lord and his goodness and might. And so that’s really what this has been about too, is just giving them an outlet to say, come, tell us what the Lord has done in your life.
Beth Barlet (10:52)
Amen. I think many times scripture tells us that it’s when we fail to remember God’s word and what God has done in the past is where it sets us up for failure, for temptation, for destruction, because we forget the character of God, the ways of God, the miracles of God. And I think that even in our own lives, we forget the miracles God has done for us. So it’s just a constant reminder.
Katharine (10:58)
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Beth Barlet (11:21)
need that we need someone to remind us not only what he’s done for us but what he’s done for them and to pull out of us the glory of Jesus that sometimes we can’t see in ourselves.
Katharine (11:27)
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Beth Barlet (11:35)
And I know
going through some of the hard times in my life or learning about new experiences with the power and presence of the spirit, like they, these women have this knack to see Jesus in us that we can’t see. And they have this ability to just draw it out of us and magnify it in us. And I don’t know. I just remember when I had a season where I really needed a mentor, it was her faith, her faith in me.
Katharine (11:48)
Amen.
Yes. Yes.
Beth Barlet (12:05)
that just pushed me to go higher. Just like a teacher that you would have at school, you know?
Katharine (12:08)
Yes, yes, 100%. Yes,
absolutely. And you’re touching on something so important, which is like the idea of a mentor or an even just intergenerational friendships across the gender is so like allowing them to call out the potential in you and to help propel you forward into the plans and purposes of God. I mean, if you think about even two, I love Mary and Elizabeth.
their story because here Mary goes to her older cousin Elizabeth, she’s pregnant and Elizabeth doesn’t respond with shame and condemnation or judgment. What does she say? The first thing she says, bless it, like blessed are you and that’s who we need in our life as older mentors is the woman who are calling out the potential and the blessing that the Lord has placed inside of us.
Beth Barlet (12:49)
You
Katharine (13:02)
to propel us forward into the plans of God for our life. Yeah.
Beth Barlet (13:06)
Amen. Amen.
And what is, I know we talk about a lot about Titus too. Tell me about Titus too and the mandate that we as women have to mentor or to be mentored in order to give back to the body of Christ.
Katharine (13:21)
Yeah, absolutely. mean, and Titus too really does set that framework for what this should look like practically. I mean, it talks about how the older, how older women are to behave, first of all, but then how they really are to teach and train younger women to, in the ways of the Lord, to love and respect their husbands and children, to be pure and self-controlled, again, like fruits of the spirit, you know?
And so that very much is, and you said it, it is a biblical mandate. This isn’t just a, yeah, right, right? But it very much is a biblical mandate and command of investing in the next generation. And so that, again, it’s very much on the Lord’s heart, again, it’s for our own.
Beth Barlet (13:54)
I’m not gonna get your idea.
Katharine (14:09)
flourishing to help us flourish. And it’s really part of his design and structure. And so that’s something that, I kind of go back to Titus too, is the, framework for that.
Beth Barlet (14:20)
Amen. And so what have you seen by doing all your interviews with all these godly, wise individuals that you’ve been so blessed to encounter? Now, everyone has a couple mentors, but I feel like you now have like a hundred amazing mentors. I mean, that’s pretty awesome. That’s another blessing the Lord has given you with this ministry is you’ve come across so many amazing, godly.
Katharine (14:30)
Yeah.
Yes, it has.
Beth Barlet (14:45)
wise men and women. What are some things that you’ve learned along the way?
Katharine (14:47)
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there definitely some common themes that come through each conversation. I would say like immediately what stands out is the importance of being in the word. And I know we say that all the time and we hear that all the time, but there’s a reason for it because it’s really the foundation upon which our entire life should be built. And it’s what allows us
to live out and be who God created us to be. So I think a lot of it, especially with the women that I have spoken to, it’s a matter of identity, of understanding who you are and the Lord. Like one of the questions that I ask, what’s a lesson that the Lord has taught you or what’s something important that you’ve learned about God? And it’s like learning who I am. And you do that by being in the Word, by learning who God is because we are made in His image.
Beth Barlet (15:46)
Amen.
Katharine (15:46)
And so
that’s definitely something that has probably come up in almost every conversation. I think also another sort of theme that has come through is the importance of being teachable and humble, which I think is a big one in our world today where we can, I think there’s a lot of pride and I know everything or I can figure things out.
But this this notion of remaining teachable, remaining curious, and I think there is something beautiful in that of going to someone and saying, Hey, I could use some help and input, I could use some godly advice and counsel here, which to do that, again, really requires a humility on our end. So those are those are some things that that stand out. But also, I mean, again, when I asked that question, what have you learned about God that you wish you knew it’s
also like his love for us, which again, so simple. That’s like such a simple thing. And we hear this all the time, but, but knowing and it’s like, and they describe it, you know, his lavish love, like he just loves us, not because of who we are or anything we’ve done, but because we are his children. And so that is another common theme that comes through a lot of these conversations as well.
Beth Barlet (17:00)
I think these are simple concepts that we know, but I think it takes a lifetime for us to embrace them. And they’ve had the time for them to saturate in God’s word, to embrace the truths for themselves versus just knowing. Like they’ve had to live it out, walk through it, transform their mind and embrace those simple biblical truths in order to walk out victoriously the will God has on their lives. Amen.
Katharine (17:04)
Yes.
Yes, 100%.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Yep.
Totally,
totally, amen. Yep.
Beth Barlet (17:31)
And
I think you said something that’s so important to that. takes humility and vulnerability. And I think even wisdom and discernment to reach out and say, yes, that I need a spiritual mentor. I need someone who needs to breathe into my life because I think I was talking about this on another podcast episode that we all have this tendency to walk in pride and self-sufficiency and that the world tells us that
Katharine (17:45)
Yes.
Totally.
Beth Barlet (18:01)
maturity is due to our ability to be independent when God’s word and the Holy Spirit tells us that spiritual maturity is fully based on our ability to actually surrender and submit and be dependent. And I talk more about dependence on the Holy Spirit, but I think there is a huge component where we also need to be dependent on other women in the body of Christ, not just those that are older than us even, but even sisters in Christ.
Katharine (18:15)
Yes.
Yes.
100%.
Beth Barlet (18:31)
to pour out our hearts to to confess our sins to to ask for prayer and I think even myself I have a tendency to walk in self-sufficiency all the time, you know like I know It’s like I can do it I can just push forward with all my might work the hardest I can do everything I need to check off my boxes and God I got
Katharine (18:35)
Yes. Yes.
Yes. totally. Same. Yeah.
Yeah,
yep
Beth Barlet (18:59)
Versus
no like I need to hear the truth from a new perspective. I need to hear it applied this way I need faith comes by hearing right and you can’t hear yourself talk You need someone else’s speak into your life
Katharine (19:05)
Yes.
Yes. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. Right. Yes. 100%. 100%. And it is so true. think we need more of that, especially as women, but it’s recognizing it takes vulnerability. It really does. But I think it also takes discernment, right? To finding those people that you know.
and can trust and all of that, you know, that goes hand in hand, but We can’t rely just on ourselves. There’s a reason we need other people, we need other women. There’s even one of the women that I had on my podcast, she talked about how she encourages women to be intentional about finding and pursuing relationships in three areas. You know, one is that sort of…
best friend who you can call up at any point, tears, bawling your eyes out, and just be like, help. So that’s one relationship. The second is someone who is further along than you on the road, a mentor or a coach or advisor. And the third relationship is someone that you are pouring into. And so I think having those three relationships, you need all three of those. And that’s like, I think the healthiest, that’s the goal, I think, to have all three of those.
Beth Barlet (20:24)
Amen. I think I love the quote that I heard one time where we are the five people that we surround ourselves with. Correct?
Katharine (20:31)
Yes.
Beth Barlet (20:32)
So the bible
Katharine (20:32)
Yes.
Beth Barlet (20:33)
tells us to surround ourselves with people that are wise not foolish because the foolish will lead us into destruction and temptation, but the wise will help us walk in the fear of the lord and we need just like proverbs 27 17 Is as iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another Always reminding us of what we’ve been talking about that our interactions with other godly believers Will strengthen us refine
Katharine (20:38)
Yes.
Yes.
Beth Barlet (21:02)
us and help us grow in the character and build our faith to trust the truth and the power of God. And you know talking about relationships I really think too I want to hit on this that it’s very common for Satan to try to isolate us.
Katharine (21:03)
Yes.
Yes. Amen.
Yes.
Beth Barlet (21:21)
especially when we are in hard and difficult times and we are struggling. You know, I think when we struggle, want to hide ourselves. We don’t want to talk to anyone. We don’t want to, whether it be for pride or shame or guilt, we don’t want to admit that we’re struggling. And you know, sometimes he uses the pride, the self-sufficiency, the shame and guilt to keep us alone. And I have been on both sides where I have isolated, I can do my own thing, but then I
Katharine (21:29)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Yep.
Totally.
Beth Barlet (21:51)
I’ve also experienced where I have, by only the obedience to the Lord, have let myself be vulnerable. And you can’t explain it. It’s a supernatural relationship that the Lord puts you in when you have a spiritual mentor. There is no condemnation. I think the most important thing that I found with a spiritual mentor is they listen.
Katharine (22:05)
Yep.
Yes. No.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Beth Barlet (22:17)
They listen so well with these
godly, compassionate, loving hearts that you could just be there for hours and there’s never one, what time is it? Or looking at the clock or I have plans. Like they have this supernatural capacity to nurture.
Katharine (22:25)
Yep.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yes. Yes.
Beth Barlet (22:42)
And what’s
so funny is that as women actually are divine design by God, our nurturers. I think as we grow in the Lord, that people of the older generation have years and years of Jesus, they are so much closer to being like Jesus than we are. They have that capacity that I don’t think right now that I have at 40 years old.
Katharine (22:48)
Yes, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Yeah.
Beth Barlet (23:08)
versus
my mentor who’s 70 and has the gentleness and kindness that I just want. It’s like, I need you because I need to be reminded that I need to be like you.
Katharine (23:12)
Yes.
Yes,
yes, yes. No, so many good points. even again, I always say like listening is a ministry of in and of itself, right? And even so it’s not just, mean, they do, they listen, that’s what I have found as well. And they also ask, I mean, they ask questions, which again, like what did Jesus do? Jesus did that a lot, know, ask questions and listen. And they really are, I think, as our mentors being
Jesus to us in that moment. And there is something so beautiful about that when you find those people that will sit with you and even just let you process, even let you just process what you’re going through. But listening is a ministry and an act of listening to, validating what you’re saying. Again, not judging, not condemning, not shaming, not trying to twist things, but just reaffirming.
validating what you’re saying, what you’re going through and creating that space. They’re creating a space for us to really come as we are with our struggles and our victories.
Beth Barlet (24:22)
but also at the same time, not afraid to speak hard, convicting biblical truth to keep us on the narrow path. Exactly. In love. In love.
Katharine (24:26)
Yes. Yes. Which we need. Yes. ⁓ Yes. 100%. In love. Yes. Yes. Always
in love. Absolutely. Yeah.
Beth Barlet (24:38)
And I would
say too that you don’t need one spiritual mentor and that’s it. Like I think over my journey with the Lord, I’ve had multiple spiritual mentors. The Lord has given me for specific things.
Katharine (24:52)
Yeah.
Beth Barlet (24:52)
Like immediately when I was saved, the Lord brought these two amazing, wise older women to teach me what it meant to be a godly wife and a godly mom and what it means to submit to our husbands to be that excellent wife as an encourager and helper.
Katharine (25:02)
Yep. Yes.
Yes.
Beth Barlet (25:08)
And
then a season later, I had another mentor who taught me how to war in the spirit, my authority in Jesus, to know that the Holy Spirit is still alive and real and just fan the flame in me to just walk in my capacity in the power of God. And then I’ve had other ones that have just taught me how to be gentle.
Katharine (25:14)
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
huh. Yes. Yep.
Beth Barlet (25:30)
and kind and a good listener. And
God is so good because he gives us exactly and who we need at the right moment in the right season. And yes, we need to pray and ask for a spiritual mentor, but sometimes out of God’s just loving goodness and kindness, he just sends them.
Katharine (25:38)
Amen.
Yes, yes, he does.
Beth Barlet (25:50)
But we just have to have
the heart posture to always be receiving so that when he does send them into our lives, we’re willing to say yes.
Katharine (25:56)
Yes. Yes.
Absolutely. Absolutely. And I will say also like on the other side of that because I and I’ve heard different women say this like, I really want a mentor. I really want to but I’m scared to ask them. I’m scared to ask them. And so I would just say, if you have that desire, and again, the Lord will bring someone to you if you have
but sometimes it does take I’m just gonna ask, overcoming that fear, stepping out and saying, what is the worst that can happen? They say no, like that it’s gonna be, you know, it’ll be okay. But taking that initiative, particularly if you pray and it feels like, well, I want to mentor, and the Lord has kind of put this person on my heart and they have, like I’ve heard this many times, like there’s this woman that I want to ask, but I’m scared to ask, I’m like, no, just go, you know, do it, do it because.
Beth Barlet (26:30)
Amen.
Katharine (26:45)
And that too is the enemy just trying to come in, you know, with the fear and keep you not connected and keep you isolated as well. And I know you talked about isolation too, and that’s something that I’ve been on both sides of that as well. But, it did take stepping out and seeking out and being intentional.
about finding even with you, Beth, like I, you’ve been a spiritual mother to me and I like asked you to meet last year and so it’s taking that initiative in step and that’s really when you do that, the Lord just gets to work such a big way that it really, I mean, it’s powerful. It’s powerful.
Beth Barlet (27:19)
And I think I want to go back to what you said about how these older women also love being mentors because it gives them the sense of purpose and meaning in the older stages of their lives when sometimes they feel like they don’t have a purpose anymore or the enemy comes to try to tell them that. And I just want to speak to anyone who is fearful of walking up to a spiritual mother to ask them to mentor that I have had a couple of my mentors actually thank me for asking them because
Katharine (27:28)
Yes.
Yes.
Yes!
Beth Barlet (27:49)
because
it has given them so much purpose, so much worth, that they are still needed, they are still wanted, and that they can pour out, they get so much joy and satisfaction pouring out all the wisdom that the Lord has shown them over 50 years, that they can deposit into someone else. And so there should be no fear in asking because it’s almost like they’re waiting, they’re waiting for someone to come to them to say, I want what you have, I want who you have, amen.
Katharine (27:52)
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. Totally.
Yes, they are. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
It’s really, ⁓ it’s out of it’s own. can look at it as this as a way to honor and respect them, you know, rather than like, I’m scared. No, don’t take that off of yourself and be like, I’m doing, I’m doing this out of honor and respect. that’ll bless like that will bless them. It really will. And even just with the the men and women I’ve had on my podcast, every person I ask is, my gosh, wow, I can’t believe you would ask me.
you know, that’s such an honor that you would even want to hear anything I have to say. And then they come on and they just pour out all this wisdom. it just, so it is, it’s such a blessing. And it’s a way to honor and respect them, which I think, particularly in our culture, we don’t necessarily have that culture of honor and respect. So to keep that in mind as well.
Beth Barlet (29:04)
Amen. I think we also need to talk about coming from a different angle where yes, we need spiritual mentors, but again, the three people we need in our life that no matter the season that you’re in, you also can be a mentor.
to someone else who is say more new in the Lord or is going through a season that you’ve already walked through that you can give encouragement and to draw them and to speak truth to them when the enemy is telling them lies and say, I walked through this and God is faithful and God has done this for me and he can do it for you if you stand in your faith.
Katharine (29:20)
Yes.
Yes.
Yep.
Yes.
Yes.
Beth Barlet (29:42)
And
I just want to, before we close, to encourage anyone who is considering walking actually in a spiritual mentoring role that God has equipped you.
Katharine (29:54)
Yes.
Beth Barlet (29:54)
You
don’t need to be a biblical scholar. You just need to possess the Holy Spirit and have walked in faith, hear his voice, stay in his word, and have experienced God. Because your experience can encourage anybody, no matter the season, no matter the experience, no matter your age.
Katharine (29:59)
Amen.
Yes.
Yes.
so true.
Beth Barlet (30:15)
that
you can just encourage and mentor anyone that the Lord puts in front of you and the Lord can use you no matter where you are. Amen.
Katharine (30:24)
Yes, amen.
Amen.
Beth Barlet (30:27)
So before we close, is there anything Catherine that you want to say to our listeners again about spiritual mentoring?
Katharine (30:36)
I just want to say if you don’t have a mentor, please get one. mean, it really truly in my own life and I know Beth and yours as you’ve said, it has just been so powerful and such a blessing and brought me really from a state of being paralyzed and in shame and fear to walking into the plans and purposes of God. having someone
to again, it goes back to that idea of Elizabeth calling out the gifts that the Lord has put inside you you don’t want to underestimate that. And so if you don’t have a mentor, I would highly, highly encourage that. also, Beth, I love your point at any age in any stage, we can also be a mentor to someone else. And oftentimes,
I’ll just say like, we won’t feel qualified or we’ll feel like I don’t really have any, you we might feel like we don’t have anything to offer. Maybe we’re not further along. We want to be at a, you know, further down the road. And it’s like, no, the Lord can use you right now where you are and you can bless someone else. And so I, and it goes both ways too. I would say the, the older generation can glean just as much from us as the younger generation that then we can, you know, we both glean from each other.
Beth Barlet (31:51)
Amen.
Katharine (31:52)
So
it goes both ways. It’s not just them pouring into us, but they are learning things and gleaning things from us as well. so again, just it’s so powerful. It is part of the heart of God intergenerational mentoring and discipleship. again, it is also a way to really to honor and respect those who have gone before us as well.
Beth Barlet (32:13)
Amen.
And so I am just so blessed, Catherine, that you were able to come on today and just really share your wisdom and your truth. Listeners, just encourage you, leave a comment on my website, www.thesaltedpodcast.com about how a spiritual mentor has marked your life and what you thought about this episode. I’m going to be leaving Catherine’s information in the episode show notes and the links to her website, her ministry,
Katharine (32:19)
Yes.
Beth Barlet (32:44)
Get on board, listen to her podcast. It’s amazing. You will glean so much wisdom from her website and her ministry. You have access to like now hundreds of spiritual mentors that you don’t even know.
So please go ahead connect with her. She is amazing. She is such a blessing in my life Thank you so much Katherine for being on with us today I know that we’re gonna collaborate again in the future soon So we will let you know about our next collaboration set your calendars because it’s gonna be a good one, especially you pioneers Listen up because we’re gonna tell you how you can get through in victory in the name of Jesus ⁓
Katharine (33:07)
Thank you.
Yes.
Amen.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Get ready.
Amen.
Beth Barlet (33:28)
But thank you Lord for being with us today. Father God, you
are so good. Would you bless my family? I pray you would just bring every woman who is just desiring a spiritual mentor into their lives. Bring the right person at the right time in the right season. And for those you have called and chosen to be mentors, I pray that you would deposit within them a new boldness to walk out the calling you have on in their lives to disciple the next generation. Be blessed you.
I can’t wait to see you here soon. all of you
Katharine (34:02)
Amen.
Amen.
Beth Barlet (34:06)
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